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The value of online advertising

Update:I re-read Scott’s post and think I may have mis-interpreted it. I think he is saying the flaw is in the way the ads are sold, not online advertising itself, to which I agree. (Could be the Black and Tans. I’m Italian, but my mom says we are all Irish on St. Patrick’s, so I have a Guiness and some Corned Beef to celebrate too.)

I’m usually on the same page as Scott Karp, but not today.

Maybe it’s because I’m snowed in and it’s St.Patrick’s (Black and Tans), but what he calls a flaw of online adverting, I call a fix to a flaw of traditional advertising.

First of all, it’s not only Yahoo and the big boys getting premium rates for page views. As the producer of a couple local newspaper websites, I can say that our page-views are worth much more than $1 per a thousand.

It’s true that national advertiser can sometimes get that CPM, but it more like $4 to $18 per CPM and that doesn’t include the text ads we have on the page. Nor does it take into account that each page-view serves 2- 4 display ad impressions. And some pages are sponsored also.

All in all, I’d estimate that our cost per reach is lower than our in-print advertiser cost per reach, but not that much lower.

The fact is, I don’t think either rate is as valuable as the cost, so we are in agreement that pay-per-click is bringing down the the total value of a page view.

But that’s exactly what we want, as an industry. Wha?

Like Scott says, it’s about knowing who your users are. The value of an ad is in what value it delivers to the advertiser, not in what perceived value any salesperson can convince the advertiser that a particular buy has.

And, like I’m sure Scott knows, the internet is best at bringing the margin between cost and value together, to zero in some cases.

It’s not a flaw, it’s a virtue.

I guess that means that high traffic does not equal a business model. Popularity is not enough, though huge popularity is still enough for the time being.

I think that’s just because we are in the huge transition. We now value things by the old model, “perceived and estimated value.” We soon will value them by the new model, “true value.”

That’s where Doc’s VRM will play a large role, as well as gestures and intention.

I see VC’s as the ones placing faith in page-views, moreso than web 2.0 companies. Most Alot of them are aiming right, I think.

Who can’t resist the allure of high traffic, though.

Mar 17 2007 02:21 pm | newspapers and media and economy and searls and web2.0 and scottkarp and publisher2.0 and gestures and advertising and marketing and VRM and CPM and CPA and pay-per-click and pay-per-action | No Comments »

Memerank ™ is the key to relevant live web

Marcelo Calbucci has a great idea that I think can even be made betterif we insert some attention metadata.

By focusing on affinity groups instead of mass popularity, we can extract the most meaningful news from the live web, rather than the just the most popular and the ones that popular bloggers link to (often the same).

Links are truly dead with a sophisticated algorithm that could do this.

I’m going to label it memerank ™ and use it on a share your OPML like project I’ve been playing with over at http://dev.glistn.com

I think the results could be interesting, but I’m curioous to know whether it will produce results that readers would want. I think it will.

Feb 01 2007 12:34 pm | OPML and Attention and VRM | No Comments »

Technorati/Ogilvy announce partnership

Ogilvy and Technorati announced a partnership at Always On Media centered around conversational marketing.
“Geeks are too linear,” says Peter Hirshberg, chairman of Technorati.
So they bring in Ogilvy.
They correctly recognize the power shift to the customer (Hirshberg calls them consumers. . .bad).
“Where’s the fire”, a feature launching on Technorati tomorrow, sounds like a Digg type.
I love Technorati, but these announcements raise an eyebrow. Sounds like they are desparate to come up with a business model. Anything!
They should turn it into a VRM/Attention clearinghouse. Now that would be a modern business model.
Ogilvy?

Jan 29 2007 08:33 pm | cluetrain and web2.0 and Attention and VRM and technorati and alwayson | No Comments »

VRM is a bazaar marriage

Ed Batista discusses successful relationships as put forth by John Gottman.

As I read what it takes to form a successful marriage, I couldn’t help but think that VRM and CRM need to embrace these same ideals.

This one really pops:

7. The creation of shared meaning.

In this age of empowerment, and in the same way that the Media must join the conversation, the vendors must join the bazaar.

Jan 10 2007 02:10 pm | media and economy and cluetrain and batista and advertising and marketing and VRM and docsearls and CRM | No Comments »

Pageviews aren’t dead, it’s CPM that’s dead, and VRM is born

A lot of talk lately about how page-views are dead.

Greg Yardley suggests a solution but it looks like he’s missing an important point.
It’s not just about widgets and “share” of the page, it’s the fact that a well-built Ajax application may now substitute a rich interface for what was tens or hundreds of page requests.

So now how do you calculate a CPM? By the number of clicks on a page? (I guess Ajax will report this data back to the server)

Are advertisers going to buy into the fact that a click that delivers new data to the page makes their ad on that page worth two impressions? Doubtful.

Do we need advertising engines that deliver ads in time based or action-based way so that one HTTP request can deliver more than one ad if the user is interacting with the page for an extended period? Maybe.

Or do we need to rethink advertising in general and admit that interruption based advertising is dead in general? I’d say so.

Which is why pay-per-click is so popular and why pay-per-action will continue to grow. No doubt.

By the way, it’s not just Ajax that’s causing this death of the page-view. It’s widgets, as Greg suggests, and RSS, and syndication of other sorts that make modern web marketing almost impossible to track effectively.

What can be tracked, as always, is the effectiveness of a campaign ROI, which methods like pay-per-action help immensely.

So what’s left to do in a pay-per-action world? Attention, Gestures and Intention are the gold that needs to be mined in order to create more effective marketing.

Using that gold will help us direct relevant offers to willing individuals. What could be better than that?

We can’t do it alone. CPM is one-way marketing, and one-way is dead in all things web.

That’s where VRM comes along. It stands for Vendor Relationship Management, and it refers to a new generation of tools on the way that allow the customers to assist in the marketing relationship.

Some will resist this loss of control at first, because what’s better for the customer doesn’t seem to equate to better for the vendor. But that’s wrong because the marketplace is not an equation, it’s a relationship.

A marriage doesn’t only get better for one of the spouses as the relationship grows stronger. It gets better for both.

Page views aren’t so dead as CPM is. Long live VRM.

Jan 04 2007 11:34 am | RSS and Atom and gillmor and media and economy and cluetrain and searls and stevegillmor and Attention and database and gestures and gesturebank and sethgoldstein and root.net and advertising and longtail and barrydiller and pr and marketing and gregyardley and VRM and docsearls and CRM and CPM and CPA and pay-per-click and pay-per-action | No Comments »

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